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1 All About Work Permits on Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:06 pm

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To legally work in Thailand, a foreigner must apply for a work permit. Work permit is a legal document that states a foreigner’s position, current occupation, or job description and the Thai company he is working with. It also serves as a license to perform a job or an occupation allowed for foreigners inside Thailand.

Foreigners entering Thailand are not permitted to work, regardless of their type of visa, unless they are granted a work permit. Those who intend to work in Thailand must hold the correct type of visa to be eligible to apply for a work permit.

To secure a work permit in Thailand, a foreigner needs an initial visa, which is a non-immigrant visa. The non-immigrant visa must be obtained before entering Thailand.

Once the foreigner has a non-immigrant visa, he may begin to process the work permit. The work permit process would take 7 business days to accomplish. Work permit application is processed in the Ministry of Labor office.

A foreigner is eligible to apply for a work permit as long as he has a non-immigrant visa or a resident visa, has an available employer who will provide documents for work permit, and the occupation he will perform is not prohibited to foreigners.

The applicant has to submit the following documents:

   2 inches photo
   medical certificate
   original passport
   letter of employment
   certificate of degree
   address in Thailand

The employer has to provide the following:

   company certificate and objectives
   list of shareholders
   application for VAT
   withholding tax of the company
   financial statement
   photocopy of the director’s passport and work permit with signature affixed
   office map
   letter of employment stating position and salary of applicant
   employment agreement

Once granted, the foreigner has to bring the work permit all the time especially at the work place and during working hours. Please note that the foreigner can only perform the job stated in the work permit and on the specific employer.

Retrieved on 16 July 2017 from: http://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/work-permit-rules.php



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2 Re: All About Work Permits on Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:23 am

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kruhjoe wrote:
To legally work in Thailand, a foreigner must apply for a work permit. Work permit is a legal document that states a foreigner’s position, current occupation, or job description and the Thai company he is working with. It also serves as a license to perform a job or an occupation allowed for foreigners inside Thailand.

Foreigners entering Thailand are not permitted to work, regardless of their type of visa, unless they are granted a work permit. Those who intend to work in Thailand must hold the correct type of visa to be eligible to apply for a work permit.

To secure a work permit in Thailand, a foreigner needs an initial visa, which is a non-immigrant visa. The non-immigrant visa must be obtained before entering Thailand.

Once the foreigner has a non-immigrant visa, he may begin to process the work permit. The work permit process would take 7 business days to accomplish. Work permit application is processed in the Ministry of Labor office.

A foreigner is eligible to apply for a work permit as long as he has a non-immigrant visa or a resident visa, has an available employer who will provide documents for work permit, and the occupation he will perform is not prohibited to foreigners.

The applicant has to submit the following documents:

   2 inches photo
   medical certificate
   original passport
   letter of employment
   certificate of degree
   address in Thailand

The employer has to provide the following:

   company certificate and objectives
   list of shareholders
   application for VAT
   withholding tax of the company
   financial statement
   photocopy of the director’s passport and work permit with signature affixed
   office map
   letter of employment stating position and salary of applicant
   employment agreement

Once granted, the foreigner has to bring the work permit all the time especially at the work place and during working hours. Please note that the foreigner can only perform the job stated in the work permit and on the specific employer.

Retrieved on 16 July 2017 from: http://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/work-permit-rules.php

Thanks a lot, but how did you know that? My documents are all set in stone, even my provisional TL is online.

Great, because no more sweating when I see BIB at my school. Regarding the medical, we don't need it in our province. There's Thailand and Isaan.

3 Re: All About Work Permits on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:17 pm

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Needed download forms for all purposes from Thai Immigration's website here:

  http://www.imm.police.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=download

  Please be aware that you've got to cancel your work permit when you've lost your job, otherwise they won't let you leave Thailand to apply for a new visa/extension of stay. For that, you'll also need a letter from your employer stating when your employment ended.

 Theoretically, when you lose your job or decide to stop working, the visa automatically becomes void and you'll have to leave the country on the same day or apply for a 7-day visa for 1,900 baht at your Immigration.

I've met two teachers who're sent back to get their work permit canceled, plus a letter from the employer when their last day was.

Too many people believe they can just continue to stay here after losing their job, but the overstay starts right after the day of the last day at work.

Please read about renewal and cancellation of work permit here: http://www.personnel.nida.ac.th/main/images/HR_Eng/ENG-PIC/18.Work_Permit_Application.pdf

W P 5 form for renewing your work permit, letter of employment and Power of Attorney Letter:

http://www.interaffairs.psu.ac.th/images/download/WP5.pdf

P, S. The work permit must be renewed before expiration date !!!



4 Re: All About Work Permits on Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:23 am

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"To secure a work permit in Thailand, a foreigner needs an initial visa, which is a non-immigrant visa. The non-immigrant visa must be obtained before entering Thailand."

Incorrect, many people convert a visa exempt or tourist visa into a Non-B at Immigration in Thailand.

5 Re: All About Work Permits on Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:11 am

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1stevec wrote:"To secure a work permit in Thailand, a foreigner needs an initial visa, which is a non-immigrant visa. The non-immigrant visa must be obtained before entering Thailand."

Incorrect, many people convert a visa exempt or tourist visa into a Non-B at Immigration in Thailand.


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6 Re: All About Work Permits on Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:33 pm

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"Regarding the medical, we don't need it in our province. There's Thailand and Isaan."

I teach in Issan and have taught in various provinces, and every single one required a medical for the work permit.

Maybe you don't have a work permit? We know you went to Savannakhet for a multi Non-O.

7 Re: All About Work Permits on Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:31 pm

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I am based in Chaiyaphum, which is in Issan. I needed a medical certificate the last time I applied for a work permit. I'll be including one with my next application which should be in 2 or 3 weeks time.

8 Re: All About Work Permits on Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:43 pm

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Sirchai wrote:.....
  Please be aware that you've got to cancel your work permit when you've lost your job, otherwise they won't let you leave Thailand to apply for a new visa/extension of stay. For that, you'll also need a letter from your employer stating when your employment ended.

 Theoretically, when you lose your job or decide to stop working, the visa automatically becomes void and you'll have to leave the country on the same day or apply for a 7-day visa for 1,900 baht at your Immigration....  


Re the leaving Thailand/cancellation of visa bit: I understand this is the case if you hold a Non-Immigrant B visa. But not with a Non-Immigrant O visa.

If you hold a Non-Immigrant O visa then your visa remains in place and your permission to remain in Thailand stays in place until the 'permission to stay' date stamped in your passport by immigration.

9 Re: All About Work Permits on Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:06 am

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"Re the leaving Thailand/cancellation of visa bit: I understand this is the case if you hold a Non-Immigrant B visa. But not with a Non-Immigrant O visa.

If you hold a Non-Immigrant O visa then your visa remains in place and your permission to remain in Thailand stays in place until the 'permission to stay' date stamped in your passport by immigration."

Visas are never cancelled, only extensions of stay. If you have a valid Non-B visa, you can stay until the end of your permission to stay too.

10 Re: All About Work Permits on Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:33 pm

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Guest wrote:"Regarding the medical, we don't need it in our province. There's Thailand and Isaan."

I teach in Issan and have taught in various provinces, and every single one required a medical for the work permit.

Maybe you don't have a work permit? We know you went to Savannakhet for a multi Non-O.


An ordinary medical certificate you can get for 50 baht at every clinic was good enough. No syphilis test or Xrays needed/

I've got a work permit, do you want to see a scan, or is my word good enough?

11 Re: All About Work Permits on Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:56 pm

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Sirchai wrote:
Guest wrote:

Maybe you don't have a work permit? We know you went to Savannakhet for a multi Non-O.


An ordinary medical certificate you can get for 50 baht at every clinic was good enough. No syphilis test or Xrays needed.

I've got a work permit, do you want to see a scan, or is my word good enough?

Since "Guest" is no longer with us, your word is gold.

Should you be asked something by another unwelcome guest, no, neither your word nor any evidence you produce will carry any weight. You might as well argue with the Flat Earth Society.

It's been years, but the last couple of 50 baht health certificates I got required a 200 baht + syphilis test. This came as a surprise to a Pinoy teacher who stopped at a clinic the day before the school visa guy was taking us to immigration. He had to miss a little work, scramble to get blood test rushed, and catch up to the rest of us at immigration.

12 Re: All About Work Permits on Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:52 am

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gungchang wrote:
Sirchai wrote:
Guest wrote:

Maybe you don't have a work permit? We know you went to Savannakhet for a multi Non-O.


An ordinary medical certificate you can get for 50 baht at every clinic was good enough. No syphilis test or Xrays needed.

I've got a work permit, do you want to see a scan, or is my word good enough?

Since "Guest" is no longer with us, your word is gold.

Should you be asked something by another unwelcome guest, no, neither your word nor any evidence you produce will carry any weight. You might as well argue with the Flat Earth Society.

It's been years, but the last couple of 50 baht health certificates I got required a 200 baht + syphilis test. This came as a surprise to a Pinoy teacher who stopped at a clinic the day before the school visa guy was taking us to immigration.  He had to miss a little work, scramble to get blood test rushed, and catch up to the rest of us at immigration.

  I had two medical notes from the private hospital in town, who did a syphilis check for 300 baht. It took only 20 minutes and the result was there.

 But not all labor departments here want to see proof that a blood test was being done for sure. I knew that and told the lady at the clinic to add syphilis to the list and she did it.

 The private hospital and a few clinics now have medical certificates with syphilis and TB- test on it, where no doctor has to be there and the usual 50 -60 baht do the job.

 It's only a pain in the ar.e when you've got to go to a government hospital, because the doctor there can decide what's being checked. If he/she's got a bad day, you might have to pay for X-rays, urine test- drugs and the obligatory syphilis test.

 That could be around 1,000 baht, or more and take a few hours, perhaps two days.

Not only the labor department in my province is more relaxed, it includes immigration and other institutions.

It's different in Ubon Ratchathani, km which is only 65 km away. They want a blood test and if they're not sure will ask you much you've paid for the document.

 If it's less than 300 baht, they know that not all was being checked and they send you away to get it done.

 It seems to be a much better advice to be on the safe side and go for one with syphilis and lungs tested. It's your own personal choice to get your blood checked or not.

  It's perhaps good to mention the province when somebody's asking about the procedure and what's needed for the LD.

13 Re: All About Work Permits on Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:36 pm

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Submitted my work permit documentation on Monday at the labour office in Chaiyaphum, went with the head of department from school. Was told that my medical certificate might not be acceptable - the woman who accepted my application said she would check if the 'big boss' would accept it. I'll find out if was acceptable when I go to my appointment (tomorrow) to collect the work permit.

The woman at the labour office gave me one of their standard medical forms which asks about syphillis, tb, alcoholism and elephantisis. She suggested I might want to get it completed and bring it with me when I collect my work permit - because if the 'big boss' decides it's necessary they won't give me the work permit until I give them their standard medical certificate.

So tonight, after school, I went to the local clinic which gave me my first medical certificate - the one included with my application. It was a 50THB certificate saying I am in good health (which I am) and stating my blood pressure and heart rate, weight and height - everything normal for my age. I asked the doctor to complete the labour office's standard medical certificate. She refused saying that I needed to have blood and urine tests before she could sign that certificate; checks for alcohol and drugs she said! She recommended I go to the local hospital (open tomorrow).

Anyway, I'll go to collect my work permit tomorrow without the new medical certificate. If they insist on being given their standard medical certificate first, then I'll have to try and find a doctor tomorrow who will deal with it for me tomorrow. If that has to involve a trip to the hospital in Chaiyaphum and blood and urine tests and the associated expense I'll be pretty cross. I've never needed to have that done before for any medical for a job in the UK (or Thailand), and I don't like the extra expense or the thought of having a needle stuck in me. Incidentally, I don't do drugs; I drink a beer every now and then - maybe 3 bottles of beer a week, so I'm definitely not an alkie - nothing to fear from the blood & urine tests except the needle and the damage to my wallet.

14 Re: All About Work Permits on Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:00 pm

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Good luck Topper on the tomorrow. You've been in Thailand long enough to know that the pencil pusher who may refuse you is just following orders of someone who has better things to do than deal with us humble teachers trying to make a living. Stay cool, nice clothes and lots of wai-ing all doctors orders tomorrow.

15 Re: All About Work Permits on Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:53 am

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Topper wrote:Submitted my work permit documentation on Monday at the labour office in Chaiyaphum, went with the head of department from school. Was told that my medical certificate might not be acceptable - the woman who accepted my application said she would check if the 'big boss' would accept it. I'll find out if was acceptable when I go to my appointment (tomorrow) to collect the work permit.

The woman at the labour office gave me one of their standard medical forms which asks about syphillis, tb, alcoholism and elephantisis. She suggested I might want to get it completed and bring it with me when I collect my work permit - because if the 'big boss' decides it's necessary they won't give me the work permit until I give them their standard medical certificate.

So tonight, after school, I went to the local clinic which gave me my first medical certificate - the one included with my application. It was a 50THB certificate saying I am in good health (which I am) and stating my blood pressure and heart rate, weight and height - everything normal for my age. I asked the doctor to complete the labour office's standard medical certificate. She refused saying that I needed to have blood and urine tests before she could sign that certificate; checks for alcohol and drugs she said! She recommended I go to the local hospital (open tomorrow).

Anyway, I'll go to collect my work permit tomorrow without the new medical certificate. If they insist on being given their standard medical certificate first, then I'll have to try and find a doctor tomorrow who will deal with it for me tomorrow. If that has to involve a trip to the hospital in Chaiyaphum and blood and urine tests and the associated expense I'll be pretty cross. I've never needed to have that done before for any medical for a job in the UK (or Thailand), and I don't like the extra expense or the thought of having a needle stuck in me. Incidentally, I don't do drugs; I drink a beer every now and then - maybe 3 bottles of beer a week, so I'm definitely not an alkie - nothing to fear from the blood & urine tests except the needle and the damage to my wallet.

Sorry for my late reply, I guess you've got your work permit by now<>

There's nothing wrong and nothing unusual with the labor department telling you that they want " the whole package."

Thailand's 77 provinces might have the same law's and regulations but not all of them really want to see the "more advanced certificate."

I was in a similar situation and decided to go to a private hospital where they actually drew blood, I had to wait 20 minutes for the result, but no drug test, no liver check and it wasn't that expensive.

It was 400 and something baht and as in your case, the boss of the labor department wanted it.

I went a different way this time saw one of the smaller clinics and told the lady to put "syphilis" on the list of tested items.

I paid 50 baht, took three copies to make sure that I always have an original and all was fine.


16 Re: All About Work Permits on Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:00 pm

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Yes I've got the work permit now. The labour office wanted their own medical certificate completing. It involved a trip to the Government hospital - blood sample taken and analysed, urine sample taken and analysed, saliva sample taken and analysed, and chest x-ray taken and checked by doctor. Doctor told me that I was not an alcoholic, that I did not take drugs, that I was free from sexually transmitted diseases, and that my chest was fine. All of which I already knew. But at least once she completed the medical certificate to that effect the labour office would also know. Hospital costs THB500.

17 Re: All About Work Permits on Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:30 pm

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Glad to hear it. Jumping through hoops and over hurdles is such good exercise, too.

I'm confused. Are you in Chaiyapum or Kaset or elsewhere?

RE: medical exams for a WP

I had one when I was over sixty. It was for my health insurance, and it was not 500 baht. It was more thorough and more expensive.

I'm guessing I won't have another WP or medical exam in Thailand. I might have one last exam in China, if the school keeps me on through next June. Fun, fun, fun. My medical exam here is a somewhat different experience than in Thailand or in California.

Too bad the damn troll is gone. He could have told us that 500 baht is too much, that the exam isn't necessary &/or that you have to do it in the country where you apply for your non-im visa, etc.

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